aleatory contract

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Wednesday, May 02, 2007

i mean i'm pretty sure i get it at this point

am i still missing something crucial, or is the theory of forms just fundamentally retarded?

12 Comments:

Blogger Julia Rios said...

Platonic forms?

5/02/2007 9:39 PM  
Blogger anne said...

those are the ones.

5/02/2007 9:55 PM  
Blogger Nate said...

You're still missing something crucial.

5/03/2007 8:39 AM  
Blogger Scott said...

Or metaphysics simply don't interest you. Particularly metaphysical conceptions that lead easily to theological constructs. I bet you don't dig that snap.

5/03/2007 9:16 AM  
Blogger Moss said...

Like the unicorn, Uncle
Sam is what is called a myth.
Plato wrote a book which is
An occult conspiracy
Of gentlemen pederasts.
In it he said ideas
Are more nobly real than
Reality, and that myths
Help keep people in their place.
Since you will never become,
Under any circumstances,
Gentlemen pederasts, you’d
Best leave their blood-soaked notions
To those who find them useful.

--Kenneth Rexroth

5/03/2007 1:50 PM  
Blogger Julia Rios said...

Hee! Moss for the win!

5/03/2007 5:09 PM  
Blogger anne said...

it's a good thing i was planning a deeper explanation of my frustrations with plato, since moss already went and won the thread.

5/04/2007 12:02 AM  
Blogger Moss said...

A WINNAR IS ME!

5/04/2007 12:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not to take away from Moss's win. But the weird thing for me is, why is he motivated to come up with this strange theory? Why is it only given two serious criticisms in all the dialogues, and then only in passing? It's not at all a common-sense view, as presented (some people, including a former self of me, do some contortions to try and say it's the same thing that common-sense Aristotle means by form, but if that's so, Plato's not a very effective communicator for such a good write), and common-sense is so often given such articulate representation elsewhere, why not here?

5/04/2007 2:16 PM  
Blogger anne said...

nate: care to tell me what it is, skippy?

patrick: i'm reading a very good book of reeve's right now. philosopher-kings: the argument of plato's republic. he addresses what he believes to be plato's intent in his formation of the argument, why certain things are explored in such depth and why others or not. i am finding it quite helpful, particularly for questions like those you describe. (and: are you trixie? i forget.)

unfortunately, all the commentary in the world cannot un-post-modernify me. so that's problematic.

5/04/2007 3:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hm. Did I get spam-filtered, or did I just forget to hit post last night?

5/06/2007 12:04 PM  
Blogger anne said...

i haven't got a spam filter, so probably your comments got eated by blogger somehow. it does that occasionally, i'm afraid.

5/06/2007 1:49 PM  

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